In Trump ‘s “Meet the Press” interview with Kristen Welker, not only did Trump demontrate a callous disregard for the feelings of those he promised to deport (see my blog about toxic masculinty from yesterday) he uttered three words that were so unrelated to what he was talking about that at the least I would describe them as a mental glitch. This is the sort of odd juxapostion of unrelated thoughts he has called “the weave” which he brags that linguists said it was brilliant. It is has also been suggested this is an indication of his having early dementia.
This is the exchange:
KRISTEN WELKER:
So you think Liz Cheney should go to jail?
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
For what they did —
KRISTEN WELKER:
Everyone on the committee you think —
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
I think everybody —
KRISTEN WELKER:
– should go to jail?
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
– on the — anybody that voted in favor —
KRISTEN WELKER:
Are you going to direct your FBI director —
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
No.
KRISTEN WELKER:
– and your attorney general to send them to jail?
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
No, not at all. I think that they’ll have to look at that, but I’m not going to — I’m going to focus on drill, baby, drill.
KRISTEN WELKER:
When you say that, it carries weight though. You know, you’ve tapped these people to lead the Justice Department and FBI —
As you see above Welker ignores this and brings him back to the subject. You can read this in the entire transcript here.
While it is true that “drill, baby, drill” has been a line he has used in his rallies it makes no sense for him to say that this will be the focus of the first day he’s in office. At the least, this is an unserious response when a thoughtful person would have said that he’d have other far more important things to deal with that whether certain people should be going to jail. If he wanted to keep the topic on the matter of jail, he could have said it was far more important to free the people he calls patriots who are incarcerted.
At the worst this may be an indication of early dementia. I can’t imagine that as Trump thinks ahead to what he will do
The point is that “drill, baby, drill” not only doen’t have anything to do with the issue being discussed, high gas prices aren’t even currently in the news. It wasn’t a major issue in the final months of the campaign. In fact gas prices are down on average for the US as a whole, with the price of gas falling in 38 out of the 51 states over the last week.
Trump clearly want to change the subject. I think this is because he knew he was lying through his teeth and had every intention of making sure he wreaked vengeance on as many of his enemies as possible. He wants to make them suffer the indignity he suffered having to sit through the E. Jean Carroll trial and much worse. That trial was a nothing burger to him because even though the basic charge was sexual assault it was a civil trial.
It isn’t only his saying “drill, baby, drill” that lead me to question Trump’s mental condition. Consider these two rambling responses to Welker:
KRISTEN WELKER:
Let me ask you about something you’ve referenced a couple of times in this interview. I asked you last time we sat down for an interview if you were going to pardon yourself. You said no. But now that President Biden has pardoned his son Hunter, are you reconsidering? Might you pardon yourself?
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
I didn’t do anything wrong. I — I was given the option, and the lawyers told me — a very specific lawyer. I don’t have to go into who, but very high up in the — in the administration, said, “Sir, if you pardon yourself, you’re going to look guilty, and you did nothing wrong.” Oh, I had that option. I could’ve saved myself a lot of legal fees. But it turned out that I was right. Look at what’s gone on. Everything’s being dropped. I still have a — Fani Willis, Fani, a total hoax. That’s a total hoax. Every — it’s all being dropped. It’s all been discredited. It’s been dropped. There are those people that say, and this would be the first time in history, that all of those fake indictments, they were — they were going after a political opponent. There are those that say that I actually did better in the election because of it. Now, that would be a first. I think you would agree because normally, that’s like, you go back to the microphones, you say, “I’m leaving right now. I will leave office. I’m going back to my family and I will fight for my name.” Well, I had to fight for my name in public because I didn’t leave office. But no, I didn’t want a pardon. And I didn’t want to pardon myself. I had the option to pardon myself.
Here’s another one:
KRISTEN WELKER:
Let me ask you about some of this new reporting. NBC News is reporting that President Biden is considering giving preemptive pardons to the likes of Liz Cheney, Adam Schiff, and Anthony Fauci. If President Biden doesn’t issue those pardons, do you think they are going to wish that he had? Are they going to be —
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
I don’t know.
KRISTEN WELKER:
– pursued?
PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:
I can tell you this about Cheney. And she’s a so-called Republican. I think she hurt the Democrats terribly. When I saw that Kamala put Cheney out on the campaign trail, I said, “That’s the end of Kamala.” I really did. I thought it was a terrible move, especially if you’re a Democrat. But Cheney did something that’s inexcusable, along with Thompson and the people on the un-select committee of political thugs and, you know, creeps. So the unselect committee went through a year and a half of testimony. Wait. They deleted and destroyed all evidence of — that they found. You know why? Because Nancy Pelosi was guilty. Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 troops. You wouldn’t have had a J6 because other people were guilty. The people that said that I attacked two Secret Service agents in a car, I grabbed one around the neck. I was then rebuffed and I grabbed the other one. These are two of the toughest men anywhere on the planet. And they happen to slightly younger than me. You know, just a little bit. Let me just tell you. They testified. They said it was total bullshit. And all of this stuff came out. People lied so badly. Now, listen, this was a committee, a big deal. They lied. And what did they do? They deleted and destroyed a whole year and a half worth of testimony. Do you know that I can’t get — I think those people committed a major crime.
For a period of time I was one of many mental health professionals who went public saying that there was good evidence Trump had early dementia. My colleague in the Duty to Warn movement, it's founder Dr. John D. Gartner was interviewed by Chauncey DeVega in Salon in March noting the signs of "accelerating dementia."
I was the clincial social worker referred to and quoted in this Chauncey DeVega column in Salon:
I also wrote: I’m not the only mental health professional who says that Trump needs a rigorous neuropsychiatric evaluation to rule out a cognitive illness and The debate may help determine if Trump has dementia and it may also demonstrate whether or not he has mania.Here's a Google search with links to many more articles about this.
Then I began to think that maybe, as those who defended him said, what I saw as symptoms were just Trump being Trump. I was trying not to allow my opinion of Trump as a dangerous demagogue to influence my clinical assessment. As a psychotherapist I am qualified to opine on psychopathology, but I am not a neurologist with expertise in teasing out signs of early dementia from other behaviors.
Now I am not so sure. Maybe speaking in “the weave” isn’t as brilliant as Trump says it is. It could be a sign of dementia after all.
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